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‘Modern Love Podcast’: Emily Ratajkowski Can Take Care of Herself, but a Little Help Would Be Nice

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Emily Ratajkowski is doing a balancing act many famously beautiful women have to perform. In her 2021 book “My Body,” she reflects on what it’s been like to build a career based on her public image, and her struggle to control that image in an industry largely run by men. Since getting divorced a few years ago, she’s been thinking a lot about gender dynamics and the type of agency she wants to have in dating, too.

Today, Ratajkowski reads “Why I Fell for an ‘I’m the Man’ Man,” by Susan Forray. Forray is also a successful, self-sufficient woman, dating after divorce. She’s surprised to find herself falling for a man with old-fashioned ideas about who does what in a relationship. (He pays for dinner, handles the finances and initiates sex). As a single mom who handles everything, Ratajkowski says, she can relate to the desire to be cared for once in a while. And that doesn’t have to mean playing into a sexist stereotype.

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Modern Love is hosted by Anna Martin and produced by Julia Botero, Reva Goldberg, Davis Land, Emily Lang and Christina Djossa. The show is edited by Davis Land, Reva Goldberg, Larissa Anderson and Jen Poyant, our executive producer. The show is mixed by Daniel Ramirez and recorded by Maddy Masiello and Nick Pitman. It features original music by Pat McCusker, Marion Lozano, Rowan Niemisto and Diane Wong. Our theme music is by Dan Powell.

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